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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:16 am 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:39 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:09 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:14 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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Well, there is always something. The tie rod goes right over the sway bar mount.

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Perfectly where I don't want it...well, I'll make some brackets to move this mount. It's actually a bit of a blessing as I can now change the motion ratio to something a little more favourable.

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The engine and transmission have gone in and out several times. Not an easy job (I've made a mobile base for this - but still).

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Give or take - this is about what I can get for angle. The oil pan fouls the rack if lower and the rear of the pan will need to be cut to make this work.

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I got bold with the plasma and cut the top of the trans tunnel off.

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The drive shaft angle isn't too bad - the rear seat cross member should be OK for positioning.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:51 pm 
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YOWza! That was bold to cut the tunnel off, but what other choice would you have? Is your console going to fit over the trans now?


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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:45 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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Chad M wrote:
YOWza! That was bold to cut the tunnel off, but what other choice would you have? Is your console going to fit over the trans now?


It's about to get more bold...the firewall needs a cut as well. No other choice. I'll have to build a new top for the tunnel and redo the tunnel from the backseat bulkhead forward. Then there is the HVAC issue. So we're in neck deep right now!

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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:47 am 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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New video time...just in time for the weekend.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:28 pm 
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Just before I go and do something I may regret later, I thought I'd post the idea. Everything is at a standstill right now until I can get the engine and transmission position finalized. Everything hinges on this key decision. I've got tight spots everywhere and issues at every turn. From the previous non-video post, you can see the engine needed to go back - no problem, I hacked away at the firewall a little more and got the engine all the way back to the firewall (bell housing fully inside the passenger compartment. This solves the issue of "back" - which is a polar moment of inertia thing, but caused a number of other problems. The oil filter relocation adapter then hit the rack (or my measurements indicated that it would hit the rack.

So back out it comes to a more oil filter friendly position - I did go as far as working out how to zero clearance the oil out of the pan (2.375" is how thick my Canton right angle adapter is...and this was too much)...so much wasted time. The engine seems happiest with all the parts if cylinder 2 is sitting on the wheel centre line. I'm OK with that - lots of room for a radiator/intercooler etc up front.

Next up was to quit farting around with the pan off the engine and get the actual clearances in place. This is the part where I'm looking for some feedback (thumbs up/thumbs down sort of stuff). With the engine roughly in place, I created a cardboard template the referenced the bottom of the block and the subframe as "constraints" - then I added 1" of clearance to all hard subframe points. I then transferred the clearance lines to the back of the pan and began laying out what I needed. My idea is to keep as much of the wide sump as is practical. I measured the dip stick/tube to establish where "full" is and then mapped that oil location across the pan.

Here you can see the driver side of the sump with a couple of cut options...either straight up or at an angle. The angle doesn't get me much other than a fabrication headache as the fluid volume is only 1" or so above the cut line. So loss of volume would be minor.

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Backside of the driver side.

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Another angle.

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Passenger side is a little more dramatic as the engine tilt tosses the pan right into the lower control arm frame support. The easiest solution is to just square it off and live with it.

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The other side.

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So that's where I'm at - any feedback before I go and get the hole saw out would be fantastic.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:16 am 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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My first thought is to ask why you would keep the top section of that kickout over there on the driver side - as you say, there's not much oil housed up there so it's not gaining you anything. If you do keep that kickout piece, slope the floor slightly so it's not a permanent shelf. When cornering to the right it will contain a lot more oil than if you went straight up, keeping it from splashing up onto the crank, so that's an advantage to the fabrication headache.

I still don't like the reduction in volume, or the reduction of width for oil control. It's really a shame you can't make it deeper, but I'm probably worrying about nothing.

Cut and fit, cut and fit. Don't chop it all off in one go. You and I will see more potential for improvement or problem avoidance that way.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Canuck - 1966 Canadian Build Thread ... Finally
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:27 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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I know we've talked about it before...but I was a little locked into the idea of the cut and fit and hadn't really forced myself to rethink the pan. It may be easier to just remove the entire back section and weld in a new rear sump. Not more depth due to the pick-up, but I do have room forward for more volume. The more I think about it, the more your idea is a good one.

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