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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:27 pm 
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I don't like animal torture, nor do I like overpriced fatty snacks or shitty prizes. I despise stampede and everything about it.

I thought Three Hills and Lethbridge was same weekend last year? lol.

whutevs, now I'll maybe go to both, why not? :)

But, no, I'll never go to stampede again, ever.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:52 pm 
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THANKS DALE, IAN AND PAUL...EAT IT NOOB AKA RAZ!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:58 pm 
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RaZ wrote:
I don't like animal torture, nor do I like overpriced fatty snacks or shitty prizes. I despise stampede and everything about it.


As said before, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT STAMPEDE IS...overpriced fatty snacks and shitty prizes...hmm havn't had one of either in the 7 years I have been a sponsor :roll:

torture of animals, right, okay, sure....go up on scottsmans hill with your big uneducated sign

I could say more but there's no point

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as NOOB
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:11 pm 
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yea...

welcome back Victor. I missed you too.

Thanks for the kind words, I know you have a fondness for the proceedings in Calgary during the month of July, you grew up here so I can understand that.

When you speak like you do, it pains me to have to correct you.

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No matter how you view it, the facts are brutal, and the animals are made to suffer.

Calf-roping causes tears in neck musculature, crushed trachea, broken ribs and more. Calves are encouraged to run out of the chute through some tail twisting... So far-on the first day of this year's stampede, one calf has had its neck broken.

Bull-riding and bronco-busting occur through the inducement of these animals to buck and twist their bodies in a desperate attempt to 'unseat' the 'irritant' on its back — through the use of hand-held cattle prods, or 'hotshots', that cause an intense pain as the electricity zaps it, just prior to the chute opening for it to go rushing out... Injuries include the hyper-extending of their backs, broken bones and limbs, dislocations, etc, including a few years ago during the finals, a momentous spectacle of watching as the bull somehow got its leg caught in the bars of a chute, causing to be shattered, and the bull having to be 'executed' behind a screen in front of the audience.

One could, in fact, list every event, and with them all of the problems the animals face, and the injuries that occur, but time being somewhat limited we won't at this time. Suffice to say, there is much to be condemned within the rodeo industry, and nothing to be applauded.

The same applies to the chuckwagon races, where it is not an uncommon thing to learn (in confidence) that certain teams give their horses a mixture known as a 'milkshake' — a sugar and baking soda blend, designed to get their hearts to beat faster, with the result being that they run faster... and in so doing cause some horses to have heart attacks, and to die. In 2002 6 horses died during the chucks, some of them from heart attacks and some from collisions. In 2001 a horse died from a heart attack during the chucks...


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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:25 pm 
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Calves are encouraged to run out of the chute through a push or pat on the ass.

through the use of hand-held cattle prods, or 'hotshots', that cause an intense pain as the electricity zaps it, just prior to the chute opening for it to go rushing out...

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Simply not true. I have sat on the chutes at the Stampede and other small town rodeos...this does not happen

As for the doping of horses...if you knew how much money a chuckwagon driver invests into an outfit...it heavily outweighs the prize money for one event such as the stampede...any event in fact, they run a full season of racing just as WRC/NASCAR/F1 etc horses arnt disposable, and I have first hand contact with many of them and see how they are treated...

The fact is I won't and can't deny the fact that things have maybe happened in the past with regards to rodeos and horse racing in general that was questionable, harness racing, jockey, etc etc

however since I have been involved...there just has not been, and yes, I do get the behind the scenes views, knowing participants, organizers, drivers, hands, and even animals, both pre and post event.

good to be back Raz :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:44 pm 
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I think people with too much money have clouded your judgment, ethics and morals, sir.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:47 pm 
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In addition I would like to make point that all of what I say is my opinion based on what I have experienced and seen with my own two eyes, since you 'researched' an interent support for your opinion...I do value my input :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:49 pm 
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There's corruption in every sporting event out there, people just like to pick and choose which ones to complain about.

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:51 pm 
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RaZ wrote:
I think people with too much money have clouded your judgment, ethics and morals, sir.


I could delve into this on a public forum with you Raz but...well...I know what I know...opinion noted...I will remember to not invite you out to an event such as this due to the fact you do not agree with it

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:54 pm 
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I think once you weigh out both valid arguments, the needle is going to point to animal cruelty, however slight that may be.

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:56 pm 
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http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?la ... al+Cruelty


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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:05 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:10 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:17 am 
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well he is having a good time

yes raz i know you are in a wheelchair due to your accident, not trying to poke fun or disrespect you that way

I was trying to point out the fact that a poll on google like that is a joke, in my opinion

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 Post subject: Re: Where is VZA? more commonly known as TRIX
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:21 am 
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yes, the googlefights link was nothing more than a "poke" :)

i don't believe in statistics, as I think Mark Twain had a point - but the way it was represented was funny.

I'm glad to hear that you say that cattle and horses are treated good at the stampede, but I am sure that my mother had a good schpiel last year on how she was pissed how many horses died in the races. (my mom's a big horse lover sort of person)


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