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 Post subject: Re: Small things amuse small minds....
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:57 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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Volvord wrote:
pro_star wrote:
Ian if that's your c70 putting out those numbers....something aint right! ;) If it's the volvord...that seems pretty low mileage ;) jk.

the Volvord, of course 8)


Metering fuel with a garden hose doesn't help :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Small things amuse small minds....
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:46 pm 
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Ugly Duck wrote:
Carburators actually vapourize the fuel a whole lot better than port fuel injectors do, especially when the intake is heated through one method or another. I could turn off the choke on my truck by the time I hit the bottom of the hill in the winter, but all my Megasquirt experience tells me that I need at least 20-50% enrichment, even to within 20-30* of operating temperature, for smooth warmup driving. The poorly atomized fuel sticks to cold port walls a whole lot more than the fuel coming out of a carburator sticks to the entire intake tract. EFI Volvos seem to lose about 20% mileage in my driving during the winter, and I'm really gentle on them & avoid unnecessary idling. Same goes with my truck, and Roberta's 850.

Makes sense. Now that you mention it, in cold weather, my (at the time) non-intercooled 240 drove real nice lol...12psi non-intercooled is kind of fun. K-jet injectors have a pretty good patten right around the intake valve though. I completely agree that a carb with heat either from the exhaust or coolant will run real well cold, but I was pleasantly surprised at how well the k-jet worked. The cop car would start and run nice on the mountain (like -10F) where my LH car never really would. 7.5:1 compression and a T-cam on k-jet also plays nicer than ~12:1 on a K and LH i'd imagine. Same oil and good batteries between them though...mostly by chance...0-30 mobil with large interstate batteries. Water cooled turbos also make for nice heat going up a mountain.


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 Post subject: Re: Small things amuse small minds....
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:06 am 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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K-jet fuel injectors are the exception to the atomization rule. Check that - I should have said "atomize" rather than "vapourize", though you have to actually vapourize it before it'll burn. The finer it's atomzied, the easier it vapourizes, which is why (heated) carbs generally come off choke a bunch quicker than an EFI car does. K-jet cars can pretty much run like carb'd engines when cold. If the manifold is heated by water, though, carb'd cars don't run a whole lot better than EFI cars below operating temps.

To get max power you want the vapourization to happen after the intake valve closes, because when the atomized fuel turns to vapour, it takes up a whole bunch more space that could be used to carry oxygen into the cylinders.


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