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 Post subject: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:10 pm 
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Removing the rear drums on my Amazon is next on my to-do list. I've read many warnings that this is easy, IF you have the right tool. Otherwise it is next to impossible, I hear.

I am trying to find the proper puller and I'm wondering what you local fellas use. I found this article with photos of what I should be looking for:

http://www.sw-em.com/Brake_Drum_Notes.htm

I can't seem to find anything like that at Canadian Tire, Princess Auto, NAPA. Anyone have some advice?

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:16 pm 
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You're not going to find anything at a store that will work. If you're handy with a welder one can be made. There is a homemade one floating around Calgary somewhere. Perhaps Matt can post a photo of what he built...

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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:27 pm 
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This info would be useful for me as well.. I suspect the right rear may be dragging on my car now #-o

Edit.. only other online info I can contribute is this
http://www.vclassics.com/archive/qdrums.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:10 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:31 pm 
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Well mine gets the ghetto award.. had to really scrounge at work to find what's there.

Thanks Matt for the inspiration, it's about a 1 out of 10 if CVC graded fab work :lol:

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I'm full tension with impact on the puller and it hasnt popped yet. Unreal!


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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:32 pm 
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Need fine(er) threads...

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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:06 pm 
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A race instructor who use to race a 122 once told me that the way this was done in the day was to put the hub under full tension, then soak a rag in gas, wrap it around the hub, light it on fire and wait for the hub to come flying off. I don't recommend this, but leaving it under tension can't hurt. How about a couple good whacks with a BFH on the end of the puller.

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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:23 pm 
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I've got one I built out of an extra rim I had. I don't mind loaning it out (Lethbridge). I think I have pics of it on here somewhere. It did require shearing off a 5/8 grade 8 bolt for pressure, then heating the drum (no flaming rags) from as far away from the hub as you can... Then beat the crap out of the broken bolt with a 6 lb. hammer. That's what worked for me anyway. It popped about a foot and a half away from the car so stand clear!


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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:44 pm 
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I actually have the correct puller... somewhere... might be with a friend in Edmonton who took a 544 from me years ago. I'll try to track it down.

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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:51 am 
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I've been trying to come up with a good way to ship my beast up there, I need to track down some form of box that'll work or make something more permanent out of wood. If yours is up there, Chris, that would save me the bother and would save a lot of postage. Can you check and see and let us know? Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:46 pm 
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Follow up for me.

Rebuilt my puller and used 7/8 NF grade 8 bolt. Realized I had air compressor regulator turned down for plasma cutter. The new puller worked right away.. popped fairly hard but it came off. Drivers side was effortless. Key on axle shaft was installed wrong way on that side.

Ive got a brake drag problem.. seems like master cylinder may need replacing. Time to read about that.


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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:20 pm 
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Wilwood makes a single circuit master cylinder that has the same bolt pattern orientation and is way cheaper than an original.

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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:43 pm 
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Pylon wrote:
Wilwood makes a single circuit master cylinder that has the same bolt pattern orientation and is way cheaper than an original.

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Cool, thanks Dale!

I did some more searching since you replied.. you left this link for someone else.
http://www.wilwood.com/MasterCylinders/ ... 20Cylinder

Do you remember the part number used on your car?


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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:55 pm 
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Matt will likely remember as he remembers more about my cars than I do. I believe mine is 7/8" but if I were to do it again I would go smaller. I could use a little more pedal travel and a softer pedal. While my brakes worked great, my pedal was hard. Bear in mind I was using Wilwood 4-piston calipers on the front and 240 rotors/calipers on the back. Someone with more time, talent and patience than I do can figure out what the optimum m/c size should be with otherwise stock brakes.

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 Post subject: Re: Removing Amazon drums
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:08 pm 
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So smaller bore requires less pedal pressure, but has less volume for bigger calipers is what I gather?

I may swap in a 240 axle down the road other than the rear discs I wont be going to anything big.

If thr 3/4" bore is a bad idea I'd appreciate input, otherwise I'll order that tomorrow night.


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