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 Post subject: for sale - mitsu turbo td05-16g - really clean shape
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:30 am 
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as posted in other thread, i picked this up local short time ago, thinking my recently bought 7 series was a mitsu, and to use this as an upgrade
turns out i've got a t3 garrett car, so dont have any use for this now

came from a evo8 car (reportedly bought from a US vendor take-off at low mileage)
mitsu td05-16g
has all ports covered, and the oil channel has had clean oil kept in it to protect bearings
has no shaft play to speak of, and no oil leaking from the seals that i can tell
includes the banjo lines, banjo bolts & washers
look real clean and good condition, guy had it nicely boxed up

i bought for $75, so selling at $75 (to break even) obo
can email me at whiley @live.ca


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:19 am 
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hey guys
since i'm not going to be able and make use of this turbo, will sell it off cheap cheap
had a coupe of inquiries, so first come first serve

fire sale, take it away $50


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:05 am 
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interested, will this bolt onto a 90+? im in the same boat as you, i have the garett 50 trim sitting around from my 242, which i might use on my wagon. this might go on the 242... is it oil cooled or water/oil? i cant remember from your other posts


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:15 am 
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as long as you have a td05 manifold (vs td04 turbo)
all the mitsu td05 connect with the same v-band clamp, so what you'll end up with is essentially the same turbine side spec (because your turbine wheel + housing stays same spec) but with a larger compressor side (because its now a 16g wheel + matching mitsu housing)

it is water and oil, i have all the mitsu hard (banjo lines) and bolts and new copper seals to go with it, i got a what looks like new drain back hardline for it also
so even if you need to customize the lines a bit for a good fitment or clearance, you'll have all the necessary pieces to

paperjam wrote:
interested, will this bolt onto a 90+? im in the same boat as you, i have the garett 50 trim sitting around from my 242, which i might use on my wagon. this might go on the 242... is it oil cooled or water/oil? i cant remember from your other posts


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:53 am 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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The TD05 only came on the -89 manifolds, which used bolts through the manifold into the flange of the turbine housing to hold them together. The Volvo TD05 turbine housing cannot be cleanly mounted on a 90+, because the turbine housing doesn't have clearance for a nut at one of the four holes, and the 90+ doesn't have room for nuts or bolts at any of the holes.

The only solution here is to install studs in three of the four holes in the manifold, bolt the turbo down in three places, and then optionally tack weld the fourth corner of the flange.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:14 pm 
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well, that funny then that one online article i found was a guy swapped same evo 16g onto his 94 volvo 7 series

either way, for this being a FS thread, if you have a td05 manifold, this cartridge will fit directly
as for intermixing years of parts or manifolds or flange plates, i cant say


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:56 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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I never said it can't be done.

Another thing you should be aware of is that the turbine of the DSM turbo is a TDO5H, which will not fit into the Volvo TD05 turbine housing. The H makes the difference.

You can machine out the Volvo turbine housing to fit the H wheel, which is what one guy I know of has done, or you can install the 16G compressor wheel & housing onto the Volvo TD05 shaft, which has also been done more often.

I'm only repeating what I've read, I haven't actually tried it myself.

Edit - found it: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showpost.php?p=341427


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:03 pm 
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for starters this isnt a td05H
the td05H was on earlier evo models (3), this is a td0516g6
(exactly as stamped on the turbo itself)

the link you put up is for "big 16G" which are the earlier evo3-4 models

there was the slightly larger spec H models from early evos, and later "smaller" td05 spec, as is this from a later evo8 model

not all info can be gleened off of internet, as you should know

and i'll thank you for not cluttering on another persons FS thread


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:50 pm 
Haha, I just built a W24 Octo-Turbo, now what?!
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Alright, my apologies. I started out answering a question about the TD05 and 90+ manifold, and got myself into trouble by not knowing the ins and outs of DSM cars.

I DID say that I hadn't done it myself, so you don't have to get all pissy. This is a nice little community board, not some E-thug forum where you have to throw your weight around to get anywhere. We're all trying to help each other out. You're a little new here, so I'll let that slide. I'm not trying to torpedo your sale, if that's what you're thinking.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:28 am 
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so either way, i will only be able to bolt down three of the studs correct? are there any real implications for doing this?

and you BOTH can take it down a notch, this is not a knowledge competition i simply want to know if this is worth the effort. thanks[/quote]


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:30 am 
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personally i choose to never comment in another persons thread, especially FS thread, unless for interest to buy or at request, out of respect
using the word pissy, is hardly appropriate, as for myself, i simply would have chose to refrain, or left well enough alone, especially when not knowing the facts or particulars of the actual item being posted FS

either way, i'll just put up some facts about item being sold, for interested buyers


item being sold:

evo 8 (late model) td05-16g6, and so fits standard td05 turbine housings

for clarity, a td04 model turbo housing will be to small to fit a td05 turbo into it

mitsubishi standardized their lines of turbos, unlike garrett that "tweeked" t3 or t4 for certain makes and models (ie. volvo vs dodge t3)

mitsu td05 (td05 being the designation of the exhaust wheel specifically) sizing is standard between makes and models, in fact the center cartridges are the same also

all td05 turbos attach in the same manner, with a v-band clamp, and are each the same clamp spec

as mentioned, this is not the (slightly) large diameter wheel early model (evo 3) td05H versions, which require a slightly larger turbine housing for increased wheel clearance

as for interchanging volvo manifolds between different year models, i can not say
in my online research i found an 89 7 series and a 94 model volvo which had upgraded to 16g spec
likely with retaining their own respective manifolds for that year car

hope that helps clarify from any confusion above
thank you


Last edited by Whiley on Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:11 am, edited 4 times in total.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:35 am 
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sorry, i dont know about the interchange of manifolds and turbine housings?

i do know that if your engine already has a td05 manifold, then this turbo will swap into place of the stock td05-12b cartridge
as they share the same turbine wheel and center cartridge

from what ive read online, it appears that problem he had was when trying to interchange the turbine housings between manifolds
in that example, it seemed to be something of a custom swap he was doing, and trying to use the earlier model 'big' td05H

as far as the td05 goes, this is strictly a td05-16g6
there was on earlier dsm evos (evo 3 etc) a slightly larger diameter version called td05H, and is the one author is commenting on having to machine the housing to clearance larger wheel

hope that helps

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so either way, i will only be able to bolt down three of the studs correct? are there any real implications for doing this?

and you BOTH can take it down a notch, this is not a knowledge competition i simply want to know if this is worth the effort. thanks
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