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 Post subject: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:36 pm 
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Looking for a 240 electric odometer from a 86-90 model year, apparently 91+ has something different involving ABS. I don't need the whole cluster just the odometer, I've done all of my trouble shooting and narrowed it down (hopefully) to the odometer motor as the culprit. If you have one with a good motor/circuit board but a stripped gear I have 2 sets of good gears so I could live with that. Also could use a "working" 52 mm clock if someone has one as well but I really need the odometer.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:19 pm 
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Hmmm... I know this isn't something most people have lying around, any chance someone could pull one at PnP and ship it? Sorry to have to ask for this but we only have 3 Volvo's in our PnP down here none of which have what I need. Also this isn't something you can get online at FCP, iPd etc., I suppose I could try Chapmans, ReVolv etc. but they'll probably want as much as the car is worth. :( So anyway if somebody can help me out, or have an idea of where to get one for a reasonable price let me know, thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:25 pm 
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I'll keep an eye at the Edmonton junkyards but I'm rarely out there now to be honest...

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:03 pm 
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1 240 series in Calgary PnP right now and it's an '84 so not much help from here right now...

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:17 am 
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^^ Thanks guys, I might throw a post up on the Wanted forum on TB see if I get any hits. Guess I should try some of the Volvo wreckers next week and see how much they want.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:37 am 
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How soon and how much is USA shipping a turn-off? How about MPH?

I'd imagine you could change the face on the USA one. A pickle fork to carefully take the needle off and and then a CDN face can make it possible. This is not for the faint of heart and can end with a broken speedometer or needle the first time around.

Might want to "practice" on a few wasted units first.

If you are willing to change the face, any wagon? or sedan? non-ABS 86+ should do the trick...

I've changed some faces for people when they'd crap out. The 91+ ones the speedo doesn't seem to crap out, for whatever reason. ODO does of course...

I think I have a working clock that should stay working I could ship with it.

I'm fairly slow though, so I can get it to you, but if you needed it yesterday, I'm not going to be that fast.


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:51 am 
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hey Jim, if you need a clock, as long as I can have the face and needles you can have the rest. I have two that I picked up from dale(?), not sure if they work but I could bring them over and we could try them out.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:49 am 
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945_James wrote:
How soon and how much is USA shipping a turn-off? How about MPH?

I'd imagine you could change the face on the USA one. A pickle fork to carefully take the needle off and and then a CDN face can make it possible. This is not for the faint of heart and can end with a broken speedometer or needle the first time around.

Might want to "practice" on a few wasted units first.

If you are willing to change the face, any wagon? or sedan? non-ABS 86+ should do the trick...

I've changed some faces for people when they'd crap out. The 91+ ones the speedo doesn't seem to crap out, for whatever reason. ODO does of course...

I think I have a working clock that should stay working I could ship with it.

I'm fairly slow though, so I can get it to you, but if you needed it yesterday, I'm not going to be that fast.


Hey James, taking the speedo needle and face plate off is no biggie as I did it the first time I pulled mine apart. The next time I just separated the motor and swung it away as I found there is enough room to swap gears without pulling the face off. Generally US shipping isn't too bad if you use USPS and it's not being sent by FCP, iPd etal... :lol: I haven't had a working odo for quite awhile and I'm obviously not tripping over them now, so if it took a bit to get one it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

I had thought of trying a MPH speedo as I knew I would get more hits from Americans on TB than Canucks. Is it really as simple as changing the face plate? I'm pretty sure the that a metric unit counts pulses differently than an english unit so the speedo "might" be OK but the odo likely wouldn't?? If I knew I could just swap faces then a non ABS 86+ sedan is what I need (also it's a 5 speed, were there difference's in the diff from manual to autotragic??).

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hey Jim, if you need a clock, as long as I can have the face and needles you can have the rest. I have two that I picked up from dale(?), not sure if they work but I could bring them over and we could try them out.


Hey Rod, that sounds good, I was thinking of trying out the clock resto instructions on cleanflametrap.com so that would give me something to experiment on.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:03 am 
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Hey Rod, that sounds good, I was thinking of trying out the clock resto instructions on cleanflametrap.com so that would give me something to experiment on.


I've got half a dozen you can "experiment" with. I suspect most work but you never know. If you want to try a couple of 140 clocks, I've got those too and I know they don't work...

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:08 pm 
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Pylon wrote:
woodenshoes wrote:

Hey Rod, that sounds good, I was thinking of trying out the clock resto instructions on cleanflametrap.com so that would give me something to experiment on.


I've got half a dozen you can "experiment" with. I suspect most work but you never know. If you want to try a couple of 140 clocks, I've got those too and I know they don't work...


Thanks Dale, my electrical skills are pretty much nonexistent but Art Benstein (cleanflametrap.com) does a good job of laying stuff on his site so I thought it was worth a try. Getting another cluster will also give me the time, and victim, for odometer motor repair shens. I'll either end up with a working clock and odometer or a pile of broken de-soldered/re-soldered junk. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:44 pm 
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I think just the ODO gears and face are different. I think everything else is the same provided you are going from non-ABS sedan to non-ABS sedan. What is the # on your speedo face?

Count some teeth on your gears maybe and report back? I'll see if it tallies miles differently and it is just the gears (which is what I suspect) for the ODO and the face is all that is different for the speed (which I also suspect).


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 Post subject: Re: WTB: 240 Electric Odometer
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:32 am 
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945_James wrote:
I think just the ODO gears and face are different. I think everything else is the same provided you are going from non-ABS sedan to non-ABS sedan. What is the # on your speedo face?

Count some teeth on your gears maybe and report back? I'll see if it tallies miles differently and it is just the gears (which is what I suspect) for the ODO and the face is all that is different for the speed (which I also suspect).


R&R'd it last night and found one possibility as I reinstalled the odometer. There is a pin on the bottom left corner of the cluster as you look at the face that may not have been sliding in to the slot on the odometer. I don't know for sure if it was misaligned before just noticed it wasn't sliding in last night when reinstalling the odometer. I also used a tiny screw driver to turn the odometer gear (the top black one) to ensure that the replacement white gears were turning. Put it all back in and took it for a test drive AND IT WORKS!!! =D> Not sure what I did but I am pleased.

I had put a mark on the top odometer gear and started counting teeth as you suggested when it occurred to me that the gears are the same in a metric vs english odometer. This has to be so as the replacement gears for sale make no distinction between units of measure, so if the gear pod gear that turns the cluster gears is universal the cluster gears must be as well?? Therefore I think that you are probably right in suspecting that a faceplate swap would allow a metric speedo to work on an english unit. The part I am unsure of is the odometer, if the gears are the same the motor has to be different as it converts pulses from the diff sender? The number on the face of my speedo is K6241.

Knowing 240 odometers I doubt this is the last time my odometer is going to be an issue so I am planning on finding a spare cluster for parts. Was reading some threads on BB that indicate 86-88, 89-91, 92 & 93 are compatible years, apparently the earlier ones are different as well? Thanks for all of your help on this James, seeing as how I now have a working odometer my search is less desperate so I will keep an eye out around here for used clusters. I am still unsure about how the odometer would swap on an english cluster so would hate to ship one here and not have it work, thanks again for the offer and all of your help.

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