75-77 stripper cannucks are rumored to have non-vacuum cable operated climate controls. Is this the case?

If so, I'll take 3...tho I wonder if they can be adapted to the late dash....I'd think so, but one never knows. I think just parts of the ducting where it joins the dash etc are different. I know the early blower housing you have to change to mate up to the late dash center vents, but all the flappers are in the same spots and can be switched from one duct set to the other.

I sort of wish volvo made a hybrid between 122 and 240. Small like a 122, rack and pinion steering and safety like a 240, no plastic (relatively) inside like a 122 and so on.

I've seen them. Matt's 242 had that style of heater. Pretty rare though.

They're VERY rare, James. I had one and at the time I had grabbed another control panel / cable assembly, but have gotten rid of it all since. The heater matrix is completely different and you can't get heater cores for them anymore - they're different from the "deluxe" style that all the other North American cars got. The heat output on the basic style is pathetic too, since the fan is one little squirrel cage that sits on top of the heater core, rather than the double-ended armature motor running through the whole assembly. Pulling the matrix on the basic style is much easier though - it only takes about half a saturday to completely R&R it.

Ugh. Never mind. Not like this at all then by chance:
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This is Jan Willem's late euro 245. They way he describes it, it probably uses the single squirrel cage blower motor in similar fashion to your description of the early car. According to him, the lower lever on the left regulates a flapper door in the heater box to let air move through the heater core or not (like a 7 series (sans the 7 series vacuum insanity) or so many other cars). That would be nice, but if one can't have nice hot heat I wouldn't be sold. I hate the vacuum buttons though, purely aesthetically. They look...american. Functionally, I have no real complaints, they are simple enough and work fine. If I make my red DL into an ITB race car the early stuff would be perfect...water could always move through the heater core, the car has a highish weight minimum, dash would be less of a PITA to take apart and the driver could have a little heat in the colder months. The 140 blower box is much like you describe...little single squirrel cage.

I recently did 2 heater cores in a couple days in 240s. (I didn't want to really...just wanted to take home $600 and it was someone who liked my work on other stuff). On one, there was a little hole in the bottom of the blower housing for where the old blower motor wiring used to live. One vintage guy who was watching me do one correctly in horror/abject amusement suggested that I plug this hole with a grommet due to it impacting heater efficiency. I started to laugh rather maniacally about wanting MORE heat in a 240. Never the less, on a 90 degree day I obliged and added said grommet and suggested he test the heater . My 244T with water cooled turbo and a hot thermostat would start to melt the ducts a little soft in the winter lol. I will freely admit that I'm a bit of a sicko by now who can have the whole dash out, apart and back in a 240 (with the whole heater box removed) in about 6 hours. Non-A/C is easier granted.

Yeah, that's the one. I remember it NOT having a flapper EXACTLY like the 700s. It DID have a flapper to bypass the heater core only for the dash vents (like an 850), but it also has a thermostatic valve like the rest of the 240s. The T-static valve is controlled by the upper left lever, the dash vent air mix is the lower left lever. I've still blown up one of these heater cores, and was lucky enough to find a replacement.

The heat is hot enough, but the airflow is lacking compared to the deluxe heaters.

And THUMP!


So, hows this for wacky for an end of the weekend deal? I am in the salvage where they will still let me walk back through the cars from having bought so much wacky stuff in the past. Lo and behold is a german market '85 245TI. What a strange car. It had a factory volvo tilt sunroof and headliner, though that was really the tip of the iceberg of weird. It also had a "standard" heat setup with optional accessory A/C (WTF mate?). I pulled the whole thing mostly for the spectacle. The heater stuff I might get around to using...or sell?

It is laid out about like I have seen europeans lay out heat and A/C...A/C is added as an insane afterthought. Think Jaguar heater-A/C mess. It is like an 1800 if anyone is familiar...A/C is in its goofy little box thing in the passenger foot well with its own little squirrel cage and a bunch of small tubing like preheat tube snaking around the dash to each individual dash vent totally separate of the main assembly. I still can't quite believe they didn't just put a "deluxe" heater in it at that point, but the cables are very welcome and much nicer looking. Maybe all euro market cars had to get the "standard" heater? Or the A/C is supplied after the fact (sort of looks that way)? I probably won't install the A/C, but did save the parts for the most part. It also had a rotary A/C compressor on a B21ET with a smaller A/C condenser that was fitted to the 86+ (rest-of-world 81+) sheetmetal with the accumulator near where the air intake snorkel goes on a turbo k-jet??? They get the '85 B230 stuff a year earlier perhaps?

Oh, and the blower motor works fine. Which is good, since I have no idea where you get another one. The air output does seem a bit minimalist. Service of the unit is about 10,000 times easier though.